Mindset / Self Talk

Episode 8 – Full Transcript

In today’s episode, we’re talking about mindset and self talk

Michelle: Hey, everyone, my name is Michelle.

Lindsay: And I’m Lindsay. And you’re listening to nurse verse. Hey, guys. In today’s episode, we’re going to be talking about mindset and self talk.

Michelle: So what is mindset and self talk? First of all, Lindsay once enlightened me recently about self talk, that some.

Lindsay: People don’t have a voice in their head. It blows my mind like it exists.

Michelle: I still can’t wrap my head around this.

Lindsay: I think it’s a very small percentage, I’m pretty sure, but people out there exist without that voice in their head.

Michelle: If you are one of these people, could you please reach out, comment, anything? I am so fascinated to talk to somebody who has just, like, silence in their head or just like, to hear more of those people’s perspective. and I apologize in advance because I think a lot of the things that I’m going to say today might not necessarily pertain to people who don’t have that self talk. But I hope some of the information still applies. You know, depending on, instead of self talk, maybe it’s more emotion or something else.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: And feel.

Lindsay: Maybe let us know how you take things in and, like, how do you think things? How do you think about things? Yeah, by talking out.

Michelle: Yes, it really fascinating.

Lindsay: It’s very, very fascinating.

Michelle: But for the people that do have that voice in their head, that’s what we are referring to by self talk is the. What that voice in your head sounds like. How it pertains to mindset. Mindset is your almost, like, set of beliefs or self perceptions, about your outlook on life. And these two are interrelated because a lot of times it’s your self talk is what inevitably is your mindset, and vice versa. Your mindset is going to affect your self talk. Your self talk is going to affect your mindset. So they go hand in hand in that sense. And the reason why we want to do a full episode on, self talk and mindset is that we feel it has a direct impact on the trajectory of your life, whether or not we like to admit it. but like my coach, KP, used to say to us in rugby, whether you think you are going to win or you think you’re going to lose, either way, you’re right. And so, that is the saying to prove that we are all self fulfilling prophecies. So how we think and what we think, is basically what we become. And this happens because your thoughts become your emotions, your emotions become your personality, and your personality becomes your behavior, and your behavior creates your life. And so, it’s this domino effect that I think, the first and the first step is the hardest step. Taking accountability for it, taking responsibility that, we, have control over how we respond to things. We might not have control over a lot of things that happen to us in our life, but how we perceive that experience and how we respond is completely up to us. And, also just noticing it, I think a lot of people might not even be aware of that self talk or the mindset that they have. It’s just such an automatic thing.

Lindsay: So when I was younger, I used to have a negative self talk, and that looked like I wasn’t good enough. So and so was prettier than me, so and so was more popular, so and so had more friends, and I didn’t know that that was not something that everybody does. and until I was a little.

Michelle: Bit older, I think a lot of younger individuals do have negative self talk because it’s not necessarily something that we pay attention to as a kid or something that attention is brought to, to it as a child. Like, I think it’s rare when somebody has a mentor or an adult that tells them, what does that voice sound like in your head? What are you saying to yourself when you’re not talking to somebody else? And how to change that? That was never, at least for me, it wasn’t brought up until I was 20 years old.

Lindsay: Yeah. We never really talked about feelings. I mean, at home we did, but not anywhere else. Like, not in school.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Not like amongst my friends.

Michelle: Yeah. Yeah. Like how you. We don’t realize, like, we’re taught how to treat one another but never taught how to treat ourselves.

Lindsay: Yeah. Or you don’t really pay attention to that. You’re like yourself. Okay, whatever. But I want to treat so and so better.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: You know?

Michelle: Yeah, exactly.

Lindsay: But you forget about yourself, but yourself is the most important.

Michelle: Exactly. And that builds that, like, accrues over time. Like, you’re depending on usually. Like, certain scenarios will play out and that can initiate certain types of self talk. Or you have certain adults in your life that said something to you and it really resonated with you, and now that’s part of your mindset, or that’s part of your self talk. And I, The more you do it, the more you remain in that self talk. Whether it be negative or positive is only further ingraining that or training your mind to continue to do so until you notice it and you choose to change it.

Most people who have negative self talk tend to be in one of two categories

And, there’s a really great book that I’m going to refer to a couple of times. It’s called mindset by Carol Dweck. I read it when I was a teenager, teenager. And it was actually maybe I was in my twenties, but it an amazing book. And she talks about fixed versus growth mindset or progressive mindset, and how, like, the majority of people who have self talk tend to be in one of those categories. and a lot of that is dependent on what was said to you when you were a kid, what you were raised around, what other mentors said, your own self, self beliefs, your own self confidence. A lot of, there’s a lot of variables that play into it, but the biggest part being that no matter what age you are, no matter where you are in your life, at any point in time, if you don’t like the voice, what the voice is saying in your head, or the mindset that you have, you can change it that is within your control, but you have to keep in mind, you have to train it just as much as you would train anything else in your life. and step, one is noticing it. And for me, I did not notice my, I had terrible negative self talk as well when I was a kid, but I didn’t notice, I think I was 20 years old. And, I’m pretty sure I told part of this story in an earlier podcast. I think it was a breathing episode. one of my professors in college, she changed my life. She, helped me realize that I was having negative self talk. And it was because at the time, I had gotten injured, in rugby. And it was like my third injury in a row. Like, I’d get injured, I would recover, come back, play my first game and get injured again. And it was just like a vicious cycle. And I couldn’t really figure out why. After a lot of conversation and back and forth, my professor figured out that, it was the self talk that I was having because I was not afraid of getting injured. I was so afraid of not playing rugby because at that point, I had identified so much with the sport of rugby. And it was my outlet, it was my joy, my love, it was my everything at that point in my life. And so when I got injured the first time, it was so devastating for me, mentally, emotionally, physically, because I couldn’t do that one thing that I was relying so much upon for my well being. And so every time I would recover and come back to playing and come back into a game in the back of my head, I was so afraid of getting injured again because I didn’t want to not be able to play play, but because I was afraid of not being able to play, I was playing cautiously and tensely and hesitantly. And because of that, I was putting myself and my body in vulnerable positions or risky positions to get injured again instead of being relaxed, excited, enjoying my sport. And so it was this self fulfilling prophecy. I was afraid I was going to get hurt. All I was thinking about was getting hurt again, and then I’d get hurt. I would basically create the situation. And so the way she got me out of that mindset and to first start to notice it and to start to change it, she made me wear this rubber band on my right wrist. And anytime I would catch myself thinking negatively or worrying about getting hurt, worrying about not being able to play rugby, I would have to take the rubber band and put it on my left wrist. And I wasn’t allowed to move, I wasn’t allowed to move that rubber band back to my right wrist until I was thinking positively again. And I had to not only be, like, thinking positive thoughts, I had to really feel it. I had to feel positive. I had to feel confident. I had to feel like, no, everything is going to be fine, I’m fine, I’m going to do this, I’m going to recover. I’m going to play rugby. I’m going to be so excited. It’s going to be great. But I had to truly get myself to the point where I believed it. and so she showed me this video of this little girl, who was a great example of positive self talk and kind of like what the voice in your head might sound like. and of course, this is, you know, a little bit of an exaggeration because it’s a little kid, but, I am going to show it. I’m going to show the video. And hopefully, for those who are listening, only you can still hear it. But basically it’s a little girl who is building up the courage to go down a gigantic ski jump. and you hear her talking. She’s afraid, but she’s building herself up. And even though she still feels that fear, she is building up the courage and the self belief that she can do it. And so my professor told me, this is what your voice should sound like. This is what your self talk ideally should sound like. And, if it’s not, just like, think of this video. And so, and it made me smile, made me laugh. It’s super cute, this little girl. I’ll play it here now.

Lindsay: I’ll do it. Well, here goes something. I guess you can do this. I’m gonna, I’m gonna jump.

Michelle: Whoa.

Lindsay: My ski slipping off.

Lindsay: Remember, never snowplow.

Michelle: Okay.

Lindsay: Here. The longer you wait, you’ll be more scared. Go.

Michelle: Yeah. After that, I would, I genuinely had to practice. I had to practice my positive self talk, and it was constant. I didn’t realize every, how often I was thinking negatively. Like, for the first couple of weeks, that rubber band was always on my left wrist. And it was hard, it was really hard for me to move it to my right wrist. And just becoming aware of that, I was like, oh, my gosh, I am a self fulfilling prophecy. I’m doing this to myself. I’m creating my own torture here. And so it took a long time, probably really months before I got into a positive routine of that positive self talk. And before I knew it, the more I practiced it, the better I got. Not only in, I was able to recover fully, successfully, return to my sport, and not get injured again. But then it also reflected in my performance. I started performing better and better and better. And I realized, like, all of this had stemmed from my negative self talk. As soon as I started to have some confidence and positive self talk, it was like everything improved after that. And so just as much as you would go in the gym and train and work out or you’re training for a marathon, and so you’re gonna run and you’re, you’re slowly building up your run or you’re slowly building up your speed, you have to do the same thing with your self talk as well. and it’s, it’s a lot of work, but is so worthwhile, is so worth every second of practice. And you’ll notice it and you’ll want to practice it more and more and more.

Lindsay: Yeah. A good friend once gave me the book, the magic, and that helps you practice gratitude and can definitely change your, your mindset and outlook on life. And I highly recommend it.

Michelle: Nice.

Practicing gratitude can shift your mindset or shift your emotions

Well, and yeah, gratitude being a huge, tool as well as aspect of positive self talk, because acknowledging the positives, the things that you are grateful for in your life, is probably the fastest way to shift your mindset or shift your emotions.

Lindsay: Yeah, absolutely. Do you remember that one time when we lived in DC, we were, I think we were just practicing gratitude. And that whole week, that first week when we practiced gratitude, we got like, free this. Free that, free this.

Michelle: I think I remember.

Lindsay: Yeah. It was so cool. It’s like the universe was giving us a proverbial hug for practicing gratitude. It was awesome.

Michelle: Yeah. Yeah. Cause I think we were, like, working night shift, and we were tired and just, you know, the physical exhaustion wears on you, and it really does, like, make you super negative. And so by really actively practicing gratitude, it’s pretty incredible, the shift that happens. And, even till this day, like, Lindsay and I both, Just about every day when we wake up, before we start our day, we do our routine, which we’ll talk about more in our routine episode. But, part of it is practicing gratitude. And so, whether you’re writing it down or you’re just saying it to yourself or you’re saying it out loud, you could say it in prayer form, say it to yourself in the mirror. But, just starting off your day on the right foot by counting your blessings, counting all of the things that you are grateful for and acknowledging all of the things you are grateful for, it really just shifts your mindset. And, I know a lot of times people might, like, wake up on the wrong side of the bed or just not feel like they’re in the mood today. But if you really think about it.

Lindsay: Like, you could be grateful that you woke up in a bed, like, you woke up next to somebody you love.

Michelle: Yes.

Lindsay: You got to work safely. Like, you had a car. Yeah. You got a. You have a car to get to work. Like, all these little things you could even say, be grateful for, like, warm water if you took a shower that day.

Michelle: Like, and it gets you to take a step back and look at the big picture here, and you’re like, wow, I really am super lucky. I am super fortunate. I’m super grateful. And it puts everything in perspective. back to that nurse relativity. It’s like, did I die? No. Okay, cool. We’re good.

Lindsay: Yeah, exactly.

Michelle: but it’s like, if you could choose if I want to start my day off in a good mood or a bad mood, like, I’m gonna choose always to start it off in a good mood. And, I don’t know if anybody’s ever been in that scenario where it’s like, you start. You wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and you’re in a bad mood, and then you have day just, like, everything sucks, everybody annoys you. Everybody on the road drives like an idiot, and you’re just.

Lindsay: You might even get pulled over, and then you’re late to work, and then your lunch sucks, or then somebody eats your lunch.

Michelle: Yeah, and it’s a domino effect.

Lindsay: Yeah. But maybe if you had practiceable gratitude, maybe none of that other stuff would have unfolded or it’s also.

Michelle: And the perspective that you have when all of these events happen, you’re in a bad mood and a situation happens. A scenario happens to somebody that’s in a good mood versus that same scenario happens to somebody in a bad mood. The person in the bad mood is going to perceive it ten times worse than the person that’s in the good mood. So, like, for example, and I’m guilty of this still to this day, like, depending. I’m not perfect by any means about, but it’s like when you’re on the road and somebody cuts you off, and let’s say you are just in an irritable mood, you’re gonna be, like, cursing and yelling and throwing your hands up in the air. What’s wrong with this person? Blah, blah, blah. Versus if you’re in a good mood or you’re in a calm mood or you got a good mindset going, you’re gonna be like, you know what? Maybe they have diarrhea, and maybe they’re just trying to get home so they could go to the bathroom, you know, just like. And now look at the difference in that. Now the emotions you’re gonna feel. One set, you’re super irritated, even more so. Now you’re more mad, you’re more frustrated, and the other one, you couldn’t be bothered. You’re like, that’s okay. It’s whatever. Which one do you want to be? Well, like, for me personally, most of the time, I want to be that ladder. I want to be like, well, it’s okay, you know, I don’t want to be bothered by it. Why does everybody else’s behaviors have to affect me? They don’t. It’s. It’s up to us how we respond to them.

Lindsay: Exactly.

Michelle: We choose. but again, I’m italian, so I’m like.

Lindsay: But then there’s that.

Michelle: It’s practice. It’s all practice.

Lindsay: All practice.

Michelle: It’s all practice.

Lindsay: And also knowing that yourself is the only one that you can control.

Michelle: Correct?

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: Yes.

Lindsay: Like, you don’t own anybody else’s emotions. You only own your own.

Michelle: Yes.

Lindsay: And how you react to things.

Michelle: Yes, absolutely. So it goes to show how much our reality is impacted by our self talk, our mindset, and our mood. And our mood affected by our self talk and mindset.

Studies show negative self talk negatively affects plant’s ability to thrive

So I think this is a really cool example that there’s been a, quite a few studies done now about even with plants, the exact same plant, two of them in two different glass cases, they got the same amount of light, the same amount of nutrients and water. And one case had a speaker saying positive things to the plant, like, you’re so pretty. Oh, my goodness, I love you, and all these positive things. And then the other case had a speaker saying negative things to the plant, like, you’re ugly, I, hate you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And in a very short period of time, the plant that had the speaker with negative talk actually died, did not survive. And the plant in the glass case that had positive, talk directed at it was thriving. And I think that is amazing, incredible evidence that regardless if you’re a plant or human being, that the, the dialogue that is being told to you has a major impact on your ability to thrive.

Lindsay: Yeah. And I’ve actually come into contact with a few friends of mine that have shared with me that they have, they still have a negative self talk.

Michelle: Really?

Lindsay: Yeah. And I feel like, I feel so bad that they are that way, but I really want to help them change. And just by bringing that to, just by them sharing that with me, they have that awareness that they’re doing it.

Michelle: Step one.

Lindsay: And maybe by them, listening to this podcast, it’ll help them, because we all are here for a reason. We’re not here to be hated on, that’s for sure. And our thoughts have frequencies and love in them. So, like, why not share that with ourselves 100%.

Michelle: Treat yourself the way you would, treat somebody else. So another good tactic is that if you do, first off is being aware of the self talk. Second is catching yourself when you’re doing it, when it’s actually happening. And then third is shifting it. So one thing that you can do that’s super useful is you catch yourself talking negatively to yourself. Pretend you’re talking to your best friend, and your best friend is in that same scenario that you’re in. What would you say to them?

Lindsay: Yeah, I like to do that.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Also, you could pretend that, you’re talking to your seven year old self or something, or find a picture of you as a kid and then talk to that kid, talk to that picture, but you’re talking to yourself.

Michelle: That’s a good one. And also one of my favorites is, I like to say, I like to say, not today, Satan, just because using humor is a great way to kind of shift or, abruptly interrupt your thought pattern or your emotions. Because if you can get yourself to laugh, at least for me personally, that immediately gets me to take a step back and be like, all right, come on, like, don’t be so dramatic. Like, it’s not a big deal. It’s not the end of the world. Like, you get to choose. You get to choose right now. What do you want to choose? And now go and do it. and another great. If you’re a meditator, labeling your thoughts can be a very effective way of letting them go. So let’s say you start to worry about something. I’ll just stop and be like, worry. You’re just acknowledging that you are not the worry. The worry is appearing in your mind. The worry is occurring and it’s okay. It’s like your mind and your body are always trying to protect you. This is what they’re trained to do. And it’s up, to you. If you think that that information, that input is pertinent in this moment, moment in time. Sometimes it’s a good thing. Sometimes your body is giving you a red flag because you’re about to put yourself in a dangerous situation. Then those are the moments you want to listen to that you’d be like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you’re right. Like, this is a bad idea. but then other times it’s unnecessary. It’s our brains and bodies can be a little overreactive in that safety response. And you can say worry. That’s not, that’s not something that I need to worry about or think about or involve myself in at this moment in time. Yeah, it’s a fleeting passing thought.

Lindsay: Or you could say, I’ll think about it later and you’ll probably forget about it and not think about it again.

Michelle: Yeah, worry about that later.

Lindsay: Exactly.

Michelle: Time. and just knowing that it is a lot of repetitions, a lot of practice, like don’t stress over the fact like oh my gosh, I’m worrying again. Oh, I’m stressing again. Don’t, don’t try not to get too caught up or fixated on that either, because that’s okay, that’s normal. It’s just going to show like how well trained your brain and your body is.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: And just as much as it’s well trained in one direction now you can train it in the other direction, in the more positive direction, but you have to do the work. You gotta keep. It’s almost like redirecting. I view it as like when you’re training a dog or some other type of animal. It’s just like it’s repetitions. You do it enough times, then it becomes automatic. And that’s the default. The positive then becomes the default. I also love, sometimes if you don’t know what you want to say to yourself or you need to think of more motivational or inspirational things to lift you up. There’s so many great motivational speakers out there. Spotify has millions of inspirational motivational, speeches and compilations of speeches. YouTube is a great source. like, for me, before rugby games, I had like two set YouTube videos that I would watch that would just get me so pumped up, like so excited. And maybe that’s what some people need depending on what it is. You know, if it’s, you know, it’s getting you pumped up and ready to go to work or you have to do something else that’s challenging or difficult, you have to give a speech. Finding something that works for you that, you can rely on. Another thing with training, when you are retraining your mind, you want to do so when you’re making these shifts, try to do it. Try to start in a very controlled environment. So for example, just for me, with rugby, I would work on my positive self talk a lot of times in practices or when I’m practicing by myself. like I would go to a field near my house and I would just do kick after kick after kick after kick. And I would do my same kind of routine. And I had this affirmation that I would say to myself, before every single kick, I would say, you got this. And so my routine is I would get myself really relaxed. I’d get my muscles really relaxed and then I’d say to myself over and over again, you got this. This. You got this. And then do my kicks. And do my kicks.

Using affirmation when you’re under pressure can be incredibly effective

And so when you do that in a controlled situation, in a calm, very peaceful situation, then when you’re under pressure, it’s incredible how much it’s like a light switch, it’s like Pavlovian. Like I would then be in a game and I’d have to do a kick and I would do the exact same thing. I would like close my eyes, relax my body and I’d say to myself, you got this. You got this. And it was like my body and mind was being transported to that field where I was practicing. And I was so relaxed. And nine out of ten times, once I got a hang of this, my kicks were good. I had a great conversion percentage at that point in time. and so it goes to show how much if you utilize a tool in that calm environment, in that practice environment, when you are under pressure, how effective it is. And so this can be true for your job. Let’s say you do have to do a lot of, like, public speaking when you’re practicing your speech, have your affirmation, have your little routine, whatever it is that works, that helps you get calm down to get into that zone. And then when you’re actually there about to give the speech, and you do that same routine, you say that affirmation, whatever it is that works for you, you’ll be amazed at how quickly it’ll bring your mind and body back into that relaxed state. and I don’t know if you have anything similar like that that works for you.

Lindsay: I would say you got this right? Before inserting iv’s.

Michelle: There you go.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: Does it work?

Lindsay: It does. Because when I’m like, oh, wait, I don’t got this, then that’s when I have to do another stick.

Michelle: Whether you think you’re gonna win or you think you’re gonna lose, either way, you’re right.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: And that’s so many things in life, and especially in, iv skills or specialized healthcare skills.

Lindsay: Sometimes. I was under so much pressure this one time. the head of Ob and the patient were watching me putting in this iv when I worked on postpartum, and I’m like, in my head, I’m like, you got this. You got this. And boom, boom, I got it.

Michelle: It is 90% mental, 10% skill.

Lindsay: Yeah. And then the head of ob left. I asked the patient, like, did you feel that? I was so stressed out. And she said, no, she had no idea. And I’m like, that never happens. Like, the head of ob watching a nurse put in an iv. But it was tremendous stress. But I had it, and I. Yeah, that’s a win for me.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: 90% mental, 10% physical, whether it’s anything, sports, certain skills, like everything in life, if you can do the mental work, then it’s like, the physical part comes so much easier.

Lindsay: Yeah. It’s wild how much power your mind holds.

Michelle: 100%. But you have to feel it. You can’t just, like, say the words. You have to, like, really genuinely believe it and feel it. And that’s when it’s like, you, like, click it.

Lindsay: Yeah. And it could just be like, that moment right before.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Because that’s how it worked for me.

Michelle: Yeah. Yeah.

Lindsay: It wasn’t like I felt it for, like, the whole day, and then. I know. No, it was literally just right before.

Michelle: It’s that one moment. It’s that one moment. You shift yourself, and you’re like, boom, you’re in.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: And I think,

Lee Dweck talks about fixed versus growth mindset

one more thing. I just want to touch on, too, is, that I had mentioned earlier that carol dweck talks about in her book mindset about fixed versus growth mindset. or another term for it can be like progressive mindset is your attitudes or beliefs, are they fixed? Are you very much so. Set. Set. in your ways, I would say. Do you feel like these are the cards you’ve been dealt, this is how you are, this is just the way it’s going to be? Or do you feel that things are malleable and adaptable and you’re adaptable and that you look at things from a progressive standpoint instead of saying, no, I can’t do this, and I’ll never do that, you can say, okay, how can I do this?

Lindsay: How can I get there?

Michelle: Yes.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: What do I need to change? What do I need to do differently to get there?

Lindsay: Also, you can have both of these mindsets over time, and you could change, like, correct. I believe I had, like, the fixed mindset for so much of my life.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Until I had some shift happen, and now I’ve been progressive.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Yeah. Like, how can I do this? Like, how can I make this better?

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Yeah.

Michelle: 100% it is. This, it’s like, opens up a whole new world for you. Going from a fixed mindset, which I do agree that before I read that book, I think I was much more in a fixed mindset as a kid or a teenager. And, now very actively, at least when I am aware of it, very actively in a progressive mindset and always thinking about, okay, let me take a step back from this situation. What are the facts? What’s the situation? what is not in my control and what is in my control? And then of the things that are in my control, what can I do about them? What can I change? How can I, what adjustments can I make for the benefit or the outcome that I’m trying to get to? And then focusing on the things that are within your control, because focusing or stressing about the things that are not within your control is only going to cause you stress and angst. It’s not going to actually help you in any means. so keeping your energy and your focus on what is within your control m is the only thing that’s going to allow change, positive change for you.

Lindsay: And, some last words to leave you guys with.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: nothing will change if you don’t change. I know a lot of people are afraid of change, but you could take little steps, the babiest of steps. Baby steps are better than none steps.

Michelle: Yeah, 100%.

Lindsay: And that could look different for everybody.

Michelle: Agreed. And I think people just a lot of times, it’s like, you just have to decide. You just have to make the decision. You have to say, I am going to do this, and go after it relentlessly. It doesn’t matter how many times you slip up, how many times you fall back into your old self. Just keep getting up, keep trying again, and before you know it, you’re gonna notice such a massive difference in yourself and in your life. In your life.

Lindsay: And you’ll look back and be like, wow, how did I get here? Or, I’m so glad I got here. And on that note, you got this.

Michelle: Yeah, you got this. Go out there, come up with your own affirmations. Whatever it works. You can use. You got this. I love. You got this. It’s my favorite. Cause I’m trained by it. But biggest, pick your words. Pick your thing that works for you.

Lindsay: and go for it.

Michelle: Yeah.

Lindsay: Well, thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. Okay, bye.

Michelle: Okay, thanks. Bye. So, m, it goes to show how much we can. Oh, my gosh.

Lindsay: No.

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Lindsay: Oh, my gosh.

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Lindsay: No, Lee.

Michelle: Put it somewhere. Okay. You can put it in the door. Oh, my gosh. Every time, the beginning of the episode.